cliff. now that plan b is that, will there be a plan c or f for failing? peter: president obama expecting to arrive in d.c. tomorrow. white house says they will let us know if there is any update in the talks for congressional leadership. the leader's office is me no news to report. as of now, we are still headed for the cliff. on january 1, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years to the expiration of the bush tax cuts. the lapse of the bush tax cut would mean the top would go to 39.6. tax rates would also go all for lower income earners. the maximum lowest rate going back to 15%. four investors, capital gains rates would revert to 20%. dagen: i will not utter that word. thank you for that. growing pessimism when it comes to the club. some americans say we will get a deal. let's bring in ted kaufman. he is joining us from wilmington tell me what happens if we go over the cliff? >> i have been saying for a while we will go over the cliff. republican members in the house hav